Episode 73 · 16 September 2022 · 23:00

Here's the Gap – and why it matters!

Ever said something you regretted about three seconds later? There is a gap between what happens and how you answer it, and it is bigger than it feels.

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Stillness in the Storms · Episode 73

Ever said something you regretted about three seconds later? There is a gap between what happens and how you answer it, and it is bigger than it feels.

It feels like you have no choice but to react. You do. The gap is small but it is there, and meditation is what widens it. Here is the proof that it exists. Are you aware of your foot? You had to go there to answer that. That going there is the gap, and you can use it on somebody angry in exactly the same way.

One thing to try: Next time something lands, ask yourself one question before you answer. Are you aware? That question alone is the pause.

In this episode

  • (0:02) Have you ever regretted something you said
  • (4:28) Something happens, and you are already reacting
  • (5:47) The gap is tiny, but it is definitely there
  • (6:50) Ringing a friend to complain about the driver who cut you up
  • (8:11) It does not matter who they are, only who you are
  • (9:49) Watching your own body react, in real time
  • (13:35) Are you aware of your foot? And what you just did to answer
  • (17:33) Bringing it into the conscious mind on purpose

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Steven

The question this answers

Have you ever said something you regretted about three seconds later?

There is a gap between what happens and what you do about it. It is real, it is bigger than it feels, and everything useful lives inside it.

The heart of it

  • The reaction feels instant. It is not. It is fast, which is a different thing.
  • Anger is not the problem. What you do with it in the next two seconds is.
  • Meditation is not about calm. It is about widening that gap.

Somebody says something and you are angry before you have decided to be. It feels like pushing a wall and having it push back, with nothing in between. But there is something in between, and it can be stretched.

We all know the picture. The bar fight in the western, and the one person at the end of the bar with a drink and no interest in any of it. What we forget is that they walked in ten minutes earlier already like that. Nobody arrives calm at the moment they need to be.

Now here is the proof that the gap exists, and it takes about four seconds.

Are you aware of your foot?

You are now. And in order to answer, you had to go there. That going there is the gap. It has a size and you just used it.

Try the other version. Are you aware? Not of anything in particular. Just, are you aware? Most people either say yes instantly or the ego arrives to say this is a silly question. Stay with it a moment longer and you will feel yourself widen out to find the answer.

That is the same movement you can make when somebody is angry in your face.

Most of the time your subconscious handles everything, which is why you can drive through ten villages and remember none of them. Put a road closure in one and you remember it, because that is the moment it says, I do not know what to do with this, over to you.

The gap is you being handed the thing on purpose rather than by accident.

Be who you are, not who they are.

One small thing to try

Next time something lands, ask yourself one question before you answer. Are you aware?

That question is the pause. You do not need to do anything with it, and asking it takes about as long as a breath.

Traffic lights are the free version. So is the moment somebody says something and you feel it rise. Notice the body first, the heat or the tightening, and answer after.

Questions people ask

Am I meant to stop feeling angry?

No, and I would not want you to. Anger fixes things. Nobody should be calm about children going hungry. The feeling is not the trouble, the unexamined two seconds after it is.

How do I make the gap bigger?

By using it when it costs nothing. A minute here and there, noticing what is happening in your body. You cannot build it in the middle of an argument, the same way that man did not become calm during the bar fight.

What if I have already reacted?

Then you are like the rest of us, and I am no better at this than you are. Notice it, do not build a second story about being bad at it, and use the next one.

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The transcript

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mindfulness · present-moment · overthinking

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Have you ever

regretted something you've done?

Or regretted something you said?

If so, this podcast is for you.

I'm Steven Webb and this is Stillness in the Storms. The podcast that gives you a little calmness and peace

when you need it most. And probably when you have it least. It helps you through those difficult times.

And I did a podcast and said enough is enough. I've had enough and I need your help.

And the reason I did that podcast a couple of weeks ago is because I'm doing much of the things

I don't want to do, but I'm doing them because I'm just giving into my habitable subconscious mind, watching Netflix,

just procrastinating all the time. So I want to give you a bit of an update. And now I'm going

to talk about The Gap.

And it's a kind of mind the gap or Enjoy the gap. Recognise the gap. But it really will. It's

one of those things, you hear it all the time about changing your life. And I just want to, you

know, emphasize that there's so many things that will change your life, but this will change your life really because

you won't have to regret things. And you can feel a little more calmness. You'll feel a little more happier.

And things like that. And you'll be totally more in control of your life. But I'll go on to that

in a minute. I want to go back to mainly um just for a moment, I want to go back

to watching Netflix and all those things. So I've deleted all the games off my ipad. I've deleted the games

off my phone. I've deleted several things. I've totally unfollowed quite a few people

I've I'm just I've turned off notifications. I'm doing all these things. I'm slowly trying to move away from social

media, although it's a large part of my life because I have a page and I have this podcast and

I have Twitter and it's the way I communicate a lot of the time with people in true because my

job the mayor I'm the mayor of trua at the moment. I'm doing my second year there's one way in

which I can communicate what I'm doing so I am I am doing what I said. Not

quite as well as what I could have been doing. Have I took a Tv out the bedroom? No, not

yet. But I don't have it on nowhere near so much um So yeah, I'm reading a lot more and

I'm reading a wonderful book at the moment called The Salt Path. It's um a lady and her husband went

on a tour after losing their house. They went on a walking tour around Cornwall. It's just incredible. The coastal

path. Really great story. Really entertaining. Really open-hearted, lovely couple. And

I'm about three quarters of the way through and it's just a wonderful book to It's a real page turner.

But

yeah, let's get back on with today's podcast. So that's a little bit of an update. Let's get back onto

today's podcast and that is about The Gap. And what is The Gap? What am I talking about? So, The

Gap. The Gap is that little, very small, Minute little time

between when things arise and what you do with it. So let me explain what I mean by when things

arise. So if someone says something, it first of all creates a feeling. It creates a thought.

You hear it. I don't want to go the technical aspect of you hear it and it goes into the

head and all that. And then your brain interprets it and then it looks at your subconscious mind and it

looks through the habitable nature of your mind and You know, and it reacts. That's what it does. First of

all, you've got the really quick mind the fight flight or freeze.

Then if if it's not a life-threatening moment and then it'll move on to the subconscious mind sometimes might go

how did I deal with this last time look through the big fighting cabinet

and it may end up at the end of the day saying, well, I don't know what to do with

that. So it passes on to the human mind. But very often it goes through the fighting cabinet and it

finds what it done last time. So if someone says something and you're affected by it, you'll be angry. You'll

be triggered. Or you might be really calm or feel really good. It might be a lovely thing that you

just experienced. But whichever way, you'll have a feeling arise. Something will happen and you'll have

a feeling arise or a thought or something will happen. Then what normally happens is we jump

to our habitable response and It's normally so quick we don't even see it it's so

um It's almost spontaneous. It's like as if there's no gap there. And this is why we use meditation or

mindfulness to help to see that gap. Have you ever noticed when you get angry? Someone says something, you get

angry and you immediately react. It's almost like as if there was no time between what happens and the reaction.

There's always a little time, but it's so minute and small, especially before you meditate or before you do any

kind of mindfulness and all. And it's it's almost well it's reactionary you know

um It's almost like that, you know, you push against the wall and the wall pushes back instantly. Even then

there is that... Little Gap. But it's almost like as if you have no choice but to react. But you

do. There's a small, minute amount of time. And this is why when we meditate or when we practice mindfulness

you ever notice when you're really calm, that guy at the end of the bar in the movies, we've all

seen it, and there's a big fight happening. And the guy at the end of the bar has got his

whiskey in his little tumbler. Everybody else is there falling down fighting and he's just relaxed. Really calm.

That's because he walked in the bar 10 minutes earlier just really chilled with that swagger walking across. And then

he stands up at the end and he does that last punch or he just says something and leaves. And

we all want to be that calm person in that storm when it's happening

and

But we often just get wound up in whatever's happening we We end up phoning friends and getting older,

different people and all that. To a point where it's like phone a friend oh If someone cuts drop on

the road or something, we've not only got a moan at that point, they probably can't hear us because the

windows that we do a gesture outside the window or something like that. And we immediately react to it and

then we then we tell people about it later and then we... Phone people. And we don't leave it go.

We keep repeating it um Even if you dealt with it at a time, you might have flipped them the

bird or something like that. You know, if you don't know what that is, that's sticking up your middle finger

or you might even do a ruder gesture. But you're angry. You reacted. You're like, how dare they violate us?

How dare they do that to us? They almost like took us out. But the truth is, we don't know

what they're going through. We don't know why they did. Maybe they didn't see us. Maybe um it was a

mistake. Maybe they're in a rush. You know, we we don't know that Maybe they're just an a-hole. You you

know maybe they're just a not a nice person that doesn't ever care about anybody else. Whichever way, we don't

have to be the same as them. So we don't have to react in the same way. So, you know,

I always say to my daughter, When she says about when people do things and all that to her, well,

they say something. And I say, and she gets I want to react. I'm angry. I'm like but be who

you are, not who they are. Always remember who you are doesn't matter who they are. It just matters

who you are and how you do it. So when we see the gap, when we meditate and all that,

what we do is we slow down like the end of the guy at the end of the bar. And

we take everything in. Because we slow down, we're opening our ears, we're opening our subconscious mind, we're opening

our conscious mind, and we're just receiving all the information. And we're deciding what to do with it. And sometimes,

very often, you don't have to do anything with it. You can have a feeling arising go oh, I'm angry

might be justified. It's fine. Anger is not a problem. It's what you do with it you know Anger

can really fix things in the world. We should be angry at many things. If we're not angry at children

starving or abuse and things like that, well, if we're not angry about um some things that

are going on in politics and other areas and things like that, well, what's going on? We should be

um So anger is not a problem the The feelings and emotions that come up are not the problem

it's It's purely down to what do we do with it? And that's what makes all the differences, what we

do with it. So how do we create this gap? How do we make this gap slightly longer?

Well, every now and again, just take a one minute out and just sit and what's going on around me?

And observe your feelings. Observe your thoughts. So when someone's angry, when someone's in your face or

when you read a headline or you do something like that.

Just observe how you're reacting to it. Observe what's happening in your body. Now, are you getting agitated?

Are you um are you sweating a little bit? Are you like

like I say, angry? Are you fed up are you Does it make you happy and joyous? Because it didn't

always a negative emotion. You could have a lustful or a desire. You know, you can have desires. You could

have desires for a complete stranger in the street, but you don't have to do anything with it. This is

the point. You can have these feelings. It's quite natural to have these feelings.

You know, you can be in a happy, beautiful relationship and someone could walk past you and you go, do

you know what? They're good looking. You

know, you can have that desire to give them a hug or go over and kiss them, but you don't

have to do anything with it and you shouldn't. We live in a society where you just cannot do that

anymore and rightly so um You know, animals still don't quite get there yet, you know. If you

ever walk a dog, very often the dog's like, oh, I like that. I'll give it a go. No, as

humans, we we have that we have that little gap between

I've got this feeling, but I'm not going to do anything with it. So that's what I'm talking that gap

in many, many areas of our life. The gap's there. But the gap's not there when we're

clouded by this red mist of anger. Or very much in our habit mind when we're on autopilot

this um These

feelings come up, these emotions, these thoughts come up and we just go with them no matter what and we

don't question them.

That's what I'm talking about. So if you just spend some time today or even this podcast right now, what

are you feeling? What's going on? Listen to my words. Listen to the gaps between my words. It's the gaps

that make all the difference um To your life until you react you won't end up in a position where

you're regretting it later because you very often won't say that thing you shouldn't say um

You think about it a bit more what you're saying. And I'm working on this. I'm not much good at

it, but I'm getting better you know um I I hang around sometimes with Zen masters and

um Buddhist monks and things like that. And they very much, you can tell they're thinking about what they're going

to say. And you see it with the really calm, wise person. They'll be looking around the room and

someone will say something and you tell they're just thinking about it. And if you watch Youtube videos, you can

see all the time. If you watch Youtube videos when you've got some of these um yogis and things like

that that these wise Zen masters and all that, when they're asked a question on stage.

They'll really think about the question. They'll close their eyes and they'll consider the question. They'll mull it over and

they'll look through their fighting cabinet and they'll look at it from different angles and they'll understand it. And Rupert

Sabir is really good at this. If you look him up online, especially on Youtube, he's really good at finding

that little gap. And he asked the brilliant question. He says, are you aware?

I could ask you this question now. So let's do it now. Just shake your body out a little bit.

Just allow your legs and arms to be a little um I don't know, loose. Relax your face I'll

do this very, very quickly. And if I ask you, are you aware of your foot?

Well, yeah. But what did you do to become aware of your foot? You went to your foot. You brought

your awareness to your foot. If I said, are you aware of your left thigh well

You probably wouldn't have been unless there's a problem with your left thigh or you know someone's standing on it

or something something crazy. You never know what you guys are doing listening to my podcast. But in general

you're not this you're not aware of every part of your body. So if I said to you, are you

aware of your left baby finger?

You've got to become aware of it. You've got a um My screen's just gone off um You've got to

become aware of it. And don't forget, I'm not editing these podcasts like mad because I don't have time to

any of that stuff. My podcasts are very much unpolished. You get them the way you are. Get them the

way they are with the ums and arms and everything. With the tangents and everything. Anyway, going back. So

if I asked you to become aware of your baby finger on your left hand,

you're going to become aware. Now then, if I asked you, are you aware?

Are you aware? So what do you do in order to answer that question then you'll

either jump to two conclusions initially with no gap. So the first one is like, yeah, or maybe you just

go, no. And the mind might jump in here and go, well, I know this anyway. I'm more

intelligent This is a silly question. I can do this. But

what I want you to do is really step back and consider what happens in that moment between when I

ask you the question and when you answer. Are

you aware?

Now then, the answer is probably yes, but you have to do something to

become aware.

Just like if I say, are you aware of the back of your neck or are you aware of

a picture on the wall behind you? You have to bring your attention to it in order to answer that

question. Now,

you might be one of the ones that say, well, I was already aware. Well, you can't be aware of

everything. The point is, I'm asking you to be aware of something you're not already aware of.

And we know there's a picture behind you. We know we got, unless you're missing your baby finger on your

left hand, but you you're not aware of everything. You're genuinely aware of very little at any one given time.

Especially the human side. And this is what we're talking about, the human side here not the subconscious mind. Your

subconscious mind's listening to everything. It can hear everything. It's feeling everything. Otherwise it cannot make these habitable

responses they cannot stay up straight in the chair or walking. It's got to be aware of how your muscles

are doing, how the feeling's going, how your feet are, where the position the sound and everything. It's not until

it becomes unusual that the subconscious mind goes, I don't know what to do with this. And they pass it

to the human. Just like when you drive through 10 villages and you go, I can't remember driving through that

village. Well, if you drove through the village and something was different, like roadblocks or there was an accident, you'd

remember because the subconscious mind goes, this is different. This wasn't what I was expecting. Over to the human. Over

to the human. I don't know what to do with it. So this is what we're asking to do. Bring

it over to the human. Bring the current situation or whatever is arising into the conscious mind or the conscious

human. So when you ask the question, when I ask you the question, are you aware?

I want you to suddenly become aware of as much as possible. Inside, outside, the world, the air around you.

Just, are you aware?

And boom. If

you if you're not jumping in with the ego going, yeah, of course I know this, I understand this. If

you're really trying to do this, you'll hopefully come to the illusion that there's a little gap between what comes

up and what you do with it.

So as you as you practice this more and more and as you sit at traffic lights and just take

a deep breath. As you become aware of your breath, you become aware of your feet and you become aware

of everything going on around you. You become aware of the person talking to you or what's on the radio

rather than just subconsciously going through your day on autopilot. You'll realise that you have this ability

to be almost one step ahead in a superhuman way. I've

got this. Okay. Someone's coming in angry. I've got this.

I've got this feeling of lust or desire or overwhelming emotions. I've got this.

And it stops you reacting. It stops you doing something you regret later.

And that's what made that's one of the real benefits of meditation. You become more present with the present moment.

You become more like the guy at the end of the bar, perhaps not drinking whiskey out of tumblr but

that coal collected guy. Not always a guy, but very often it is in movies.

I'm thinking of more Western movies. I grew up with a lot of them. So yeah, hopefully that helps.

Let me know if that helps at all. And that this is one of the two podcasts. I said on

my um Tiktok account that I was going to do one of two podcasts. It was either going to be

um about the gap where it's going to be a really simple form of meditations. Well, I'm going to do

both podcasts actually um Next week, it's going to be a really simple four-step process of meditation that I do.

And you can do it in one minute or you can do it in one hour. It totally depends. And

it will really help you to generate this gap. And the bigger you make the gap, the more you won't

regret things in your life, the more you won't say these things. The more benefits it will give you. You'll

make more wiser decisions. You'll be able to make better and faster decisions, ironically. And you'll you'll regret less decisions.

And those decisions will be more beneficial for you and everybody. So

hopefully this will help. And look out every Friday for a new podcast.

I'm really working on that. Feel free to email me and go, where's your podcast?

Sometimes when a podcast goes really well, I want to run from it and go, oh, I can't do this

anymore. I have a real big fear and I'm working on it that I'm gonna let people down

and I realise I let more people down by just not doing rather than just getting on with it. So

I'm working on it. We're all deeply, beautifully flawed and perfect at the same time, aren't we?

And I'm no different. I'm no different

um we just gotta make sure we're working on it um So this is Stillness in the Storms. I'm Steven

Webb. your host. And you can find out more about me or you can contact me on StevenWebb.uk. I

don't have any sponsors for this podcast, but if you go to StevenWebb.uk, there is a link there to an

app with all my meditations. And

that will that will if you sign up to the app, I will get a little bit of the money,

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um So yeah, there's a link on StevenWebb.uk. It's an awesome app. Not just mine, but it's literally hundreds and

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